Electro-magnet implants
I was on one of the threads for magnet implants and saw someone suggest using electro magnets instead of rare earth so they could turn them on and off at will. Unfortunately I cannot re-find that thread to add to, and I am not finding anything on electro magnets in the search, so i'm starting this one. From what I do remember of the comments, the idea was not met with much love. But I thought it was interesting, and much more functional than a regular magnet. Not only could you turn it on or off, but also adjust the strength. You could climb straight up steel walls or the side of a ship if you could turn on/off your fingertip palm/magnets. Like a fricking gecko, or spider man. I know, I know, we are talking about major potential for complications here. I get that, and that is exactly why i'm starting this discussion. I, and hopefully others, will be gathering data on the effects of electro-magnets and electrical current on the human body. I will do this mod someday, for sure, and would like to gather all info regarding this type of procedure/technology before I attempt it on myself. I am thinking some kind of battery and/or solar cell in/on a backpack, and leads of some sort coming from the electro magnets to attach said current to, with the current going from the backpack to detachable wires in a wristband or whatever convenient article of clothing you could hold them in that is near the EM leads. But would those leads need to be outside of the skin, or could we in this day in age use some kind of magnetically attaching diodes (is that the right word?) that pass current through a very thin layer of skin so the leads could pick up the juice subdermally? It would be great to be able to attach/detach power without having to keep leads poking out of my skin, buts its certainly not a deal breaker. So whatup? Any info? Any attempts?
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Having wires hanging out of your body is a bad idea simply becaise you could get it hung up on ANYTHING. Think about head phone cables and imagnine that happening in your body. One way to POSSIBLY, in the future, power one is through an induction charger. That said you still would need to transfer alot of power and probably damage said skin still.
Try making an electro magnet with what you would want done and put it in a glove form if you are dead set on this to see what types of things you would be dealing with.
There are many instructables on making them.
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Ever pinch your finger in a door? Think about that. Your pretty much going to either have the magnet rip out of your hand/finger to attach to a wall or crush all the skin and then rip ot off from trying to support your weight with only a thin layer of skin.
Sincerely,
John Doe
Good luck.
Yea I need to work on writing out ideas, rereading over that that came out a lot more dickish than intended. Sorry about that....
The questions I would ask is what occupies the tissues that you have? Blood vessels, nerves, muscle, fat, tendons. There's things in the body that simply cannot be removed or displaced without detriment. Blood flow really shouldn't be interrupted. One reason that we mainly have 3mm magnets instead of say 6mm is because of practical sizing with the interruption of blood flow. :s
Wiring is scary if it goes bad >~<. You are more than welcome to help the multiple people who are working on it work on it, there are multiple posts about the subject. Instead of telling me it is difficult but not impossible, please read those and understand the reason I say this.
Surface area may mitigate force. We still have a rule of suspending objects for more than 20 minutes, objects the size of paper clips. The body is much larger. How would you address this?
What would your power source be? Where would your power source be located? Would be within your hands, or if it was wired, how would you insulate the wires, how would they stretch or bunch, how would they respond to stress or damage. What would they be made of.
Same with the magnets. Please describe the electromagnets you would use, so ideas and criticisms can be used to evolve the idea. ^^
Please remember they need to be as unobtrusive to the body as possible, and bio inert. Standard convention for things is not near major nerves, arteries, or joints.
One of you has to be right. Prove it with established knowledge and ideas leading to effective theses that can be experimented with. Don't resort to calling each other names or whatever. C_c
I'd love to see this happen. So please demonstrate to me there's a way to develop this system in the body none of us have seen yet, or there's an arrangement of 'safe' technologies, or develop the 'safe' technologies, to conduct the ideas.
I think it's fair to pose questions and established information to develop ideas and grow, refine, or filter then out. ^^
Sincerely,
John Doe
downward pull from a magnet.
Your not going to be pulling away from a horizontal sheet of metal it will most likely be down so you not only need magnet strength but friction to keep from sliding down and thus ripping the skin from your hands and toes. You need to ensure there will be no lubricants on the metal, such as fingerprints from other spider-men, rain/moisture, bird crap otherwise splat.
https://www.scientificsonline.com/product/electro-magnet-200-pound-lift
Example of an electronic magnet for a horizontal hanging platform.
Avg size males body weight "could" be held. Size is way to large for going in the hand.
I could be wrong but wrapping a neodymium in magnet wire wouldn't boost said strength because the electrons are all ready aligned but you will have either the strength of the electromagnet OR neodymiums which ever is stronger doing most of said gripping.
We are not uncreative if you can find ways to bypass issues that are brought up with evidence then it's not an issue. You cannot say tesla made a way to transmit power wirelessly and suddenly say "I must be able to do this then!" Also there wasn't any true evidence saying he did it was rumor and some sketches. We can only now power a light bulb in the center of a ring (last I checked).
When you post something asking questions you need to take the answers given or prove the answer wrong not say we are all nay Sayers and uncreative.
Show me proof that your fingers and toes won't be crushed.
Show me the flexible electromagnet that can handle three points of contact while carring 230lbs up a vertical wall where you will also have to traverse glass.
You haven't shown any of this yet; maybe your gonna develop it. Bravo for that. No one will assist you if you attack what they say calling them uncreative.