Magnetic implant via injection method
edited November 2012 in Magnets
This is one of the first videos on the injection method, I apologize for how uninformitive it is. I was expecting to have someone videotaping me, but my buddy got called into work so I had to make do by myself. I got everything ready before I even started freezing my hand to allow me to do the procedure before my hand defrosted.if I had 1-2 of my friends here like I was originally expecting, I could have had them help setup, which would have allowed me to better explain what I was doing. I did explain originally, but I hesitated before i went in so I threw that video out and made a new one and just went at it, I even slightly hesitated for a second at the beginning of this video after I repositioned myself.
1 RFID injector
1 parylene coated neodymium magnet
1 alcohol sanitizing wipe
1 bitch sticker(bandaid)
1 paper towel
1 latex glove
Remove sterile injector from package, insert magnet into needle tip.
Fill bowl/pot/bucket with ice water, put latex glove on hand, insert hand in ice water for 30 minutes.
After 30 minutes remove hand from bowl, and remove latex glove.
Wipe finger clean with sanitization wipe.
Insert injector into finger, be sure to not go too deep.
Push down on plunger until you feel the magnet come out.
Apply pressure on magnet as you remove the injector.
Keep bandaid on until bleeding subsides, once bleeding stops it is safe to remove bandaid.
The procedure is virtually painless, I recall in earlier posts people were talking about needing procedures with less pain, as I said I felt no real pain, just physical pressure and anxiety. That's about it.
I have provided virtually idiot proof step-by-step instructions on implanting the magnet.
Thanks, that video was very informative with your description. I just don't like that your finger its just floating around(kinda) i'd like to find some slight restraining method, to keep it very still. Just because I don't know if I trust myself to not flinch, and to keep it steady so I could aim properly.
Also, I was thinking of numbing my hand before I did it by sitting on it much in the way you would go about attempting "the stranger" haha.
I honestly have no idea who else has done this method. It's still very new, and when I learned of it, was still ONLY hypothetical. I was still acquiring everything I needed when you did yours, or I would have done mine earlier. We are definitely the pioneers of this new method. In addition to the lower amounts of pain, because it does less tissue damage it will obviously heal quicker.
I don't remember if I mentioned it already, but my biggest worry is I might have out it too deep. If its too deep it will be in more muscle than nerve cluster so you will get lower sensitivity, if any at all, is my prediction. We don't have much information about any of this other than experience, and trial and error. Its still healing so I may have a hard time feeling the waves until its fully healed and stops pulsating from being sore. But if my fears are realized and it is indeed too deep, I need to prepare to remove it, allow it to heal again, and retry. It was a bit of a bitch getting the syringe all the way into my finger, it went in but refused to go all the way throug the skin at first.
Has anyone tried encasing the magnet in glass, similar to an RFID implant? It seems that this would be an ideal way to bioproof the magnet. It has the advantage of being a proven method. The magnet could be epoxied to the inside of the glass capsule to increase the vibration sensitivity and then sealed inside. This would be ideal for the injection method since you could use a pet RFID injector to perform the implant. Would a 2mm x 12mm capsule be too large for a fingertip?
Of course, if the capsule got broken, you'd need to remove the implant before it deteriorated or the glass shards migrated to a place where they would be dangerous. Usually these things are placed in a area with loose skin to protect them from crushing, so I would have to consider that before going ahead with the implant. I might try supergluing the capsule to my skin to test sensitivity before making a final decision where to implant it.
My biggest remaining problem is locating a source for the glass capsule and finding a way to seal the open end without overheating the magnet and destroying its magnetic properties. If anyone has any information on the subject, I'd like to know.
I had been thinking about an injection method, hypothetically like you, and searching around I found out you had done it. My idea was pretty much the same method you used.
Good to know that it worked out. I'm now more decided to put mine in like that, even considering depth is harder to get right.
Just a couple questions:
Did you get the injector already without a chip? And, the magnet was cylindrical, right? Like the ones from Supermagnetman?
I got the injector from Hong Kong, and it came with an RFID chip that I lost the same day I put my magnet in, and yeah, I got mine from SuperMagnetMan, cylindrical, 2mm X 7mm
But another thing, I can't seem to find the 2x7 parylene coated magnets on SuperMagnetMan's website! The link that's around the site returns a "Product does not exist" page... There are 0.7x1.0 mm magnets, which may be too small, but for 30 cents I might try. There's also a 3.5x6.5mm one but it's too thick for the injector.
Does somebody know if anyone has had success with gold-plated magnets? I already have a few 1x2mm cylindrical ones, but in some posts they advice against them. I don't know if gold itself is biocompatible enough, or if the coating is sturdy enough to survive inside.
Have you tried contacting SuperMagnetman &/or K&J Magnets to see if they have any suitable stock not listed online? Or seeing if there's interest in another group buy?
Actually contacting SuperMagnetMan never crossed my mind... silly me.
I'll drop him a line, and let you all know what happens.
I kept checking the other threads and found out that @BrandonKing once used the 0.7x1.0 magnets with his method (the 30c ones that SMM still sells), so I'm just gonna buy a bunch of those and try it out. However, I already contacted sales to know if we can still get the 2x7mm ones.
Yeah I know, apparently they no longer sell the ones I used, which sucks because I need to reimplant it, so I have been talking to Cassox about creating a custom one with 3 cylindrical magnets coated in the dental resin, we had to shelve it for now until he is done with the infrared vision project
This is also an old thread I think @glims is getting nostalgic. Before your post @krispyking the last post was 2013.