Is it possible to copy tag without knowing what kind it is
I was thinking about getting an RFID implant and copy my school badge on it.
But I don't know what kind of tag my card is.
Is there a way to find it out?
I asked my school if they tell me, but I think they are scared that I will somehow hack the system or anything. Because our badge works as payment for copies and lunch, entry to buildings, etc.
I don't want to get an implant and then not be able to use it for anything.
All I know about the tag is that I can't read it with my LG G3, and therefor I think its an RFID and not a NFC tag.
Thanks for any advice
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When you use the card does it need to touch the reader or can there be a space between it and the reader at your school?
I believe it to be RFID and not NFC. What led you to that site?
Do you have access to a RFID reader? If it is NFC it could be protected from being read by things other then their machines.
I found the product list and again it says RFID do you see anything that says hid on it?
I did a quick look up of the cards and most of them say 13.56mhz which is an NFC.
I'm going to guess if your card is one of the listed it is NFC. For a reader you may not be able to copy it because it could be locked and only readable with their scanner. If you can find a dual reader for NFC and RFID you'd be golden but again likely locked by manufacturer.
So in adition to what @meanderpaul said( not trying to teach him or hate) :), my suggestion would be to get a hold of a nfc Reader and try if they read your Card. Or look up how you can make a "nfc detector " on internet . Its basicly a Small thin Electronical wire wound up 3-4 Times around three vingers to create a loop and just solder a LED to it. If you hold that against a nfc Reader it will light up. Check YouTube on how to make one. ;)
Can you get a photo of the card maybe? Or even the readers could have a make/ model which could give us an idea on what it is.
I'm just on thr way home from a festival, so i cant check tonight. But tomorrow i will look into it again and let you know.
Thank you very much for the tips so far
So after all we are not using the polysafe chips.
He said thats all he knows.
There are still differents tags but we are using them for payment, access control, payment of photocopies and prints directly at the printer and I think parketing.
I hope this is better.
As soon as I get hands on a computer I will upload a pic of my card. And I checked for models and stuff on the readers and there is nothing, probably only on the other side I can't see.
If you are close to me Im willing to scan it with Mine ( I'm from the netherlands).
Or make a nfc detector with a led and simply hold it against the reader on school.
You should try to narrow it Down to nfc or RFID first
Transponder chip (ID-medium)
Passive memory chip with up to 4 kB memory, for integration into cards,
key fobs, key or as a virtual transponder also in banking, credit cards
or mobile phones (NFC).
As well as this;
Reader Chip
Integrated circuit (IC), with high-frequency unit and microprocessor
with comprehensive security features for the realization of readers for
access control, time & attendance, cashless payment etc.
and lastly this;
RF interface
Contactless data and power transmission on the frequency of 13.56 MHz for communication distances of up to 50 cm.
The LEGIC technology components support the RF standards ISO 14443, ISO
15693, NFC and the LEGIC RF and other standards of third parties (see
table below).
Going to say either NFC or IC, might need the xIC implant;
https://dangerousthings.com/shop/xic-icode-sli-2x12mm-glass-tag/
So my opinion would be to use a makeshift nfcdetector to filter out if its nfc or not. That would be the cheapest First Step.
My Experience with that Reader is that it has a bad library and drivers for anything like cracking or copying, but i often use it to check for nfc and if my makeshift nfc works ;). So maybe invest in it or a cheap knockoff arduino with nfc Reader?
I contacted the manufacturer of the chips we use at my school. And he told me, he can't tell me what they are using, but if I can't read it with my phone it probably is their prime Standard. Which only THEY use.