Nootropic to help me get over my autism?

I am looking for a Nootropic to help me get over my autism.

I have been taking Alfa Brain, Nascent Iodine, and Beyond Tangy Tangerine. It is enough to get rid of nutritional deficiencies read by a basic blood test, but that alone wasn't enough to help me reach my goal.

I have rejoined HackPittsburgh in December with a goal of putting myself through a socializing crash course while finding a good place to host my Linux Users Group. While it worked, it didn't get me much closer to my goal.

My goal was to find a new job because the one I had sent me to the psyche ward for a day last year, but I still find it insanely hard to hold a dialog with recruiter and human resource types. I still can't speak their language, and there is no training course in existence that I know of that can get me there. I have looked for three years.

Now that the back story is out of the way, I am ready to experiment, the only question now is with what.
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  • Most of the nootropics if anything make you MORE autistic, but that's not a bad thing.

    If you have social anxiety a nootropic isn't what you need, if it's bad ask your doctor for a beta blocker.
  • For one thing.. I almost think there should be a floating disclaimer stating that don't diagnose our treat medical conditions. But... can you post your cbc and bmp labs?
  • Probably one of the most interesting things I've thought about in a while.

    I would definitely agree with garethnelsonuk, most 'normal' nootropics will make you more autistic.

    I did a bit of Google'ing and found these, not particularly useful, but interesting none the less:
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s007870070022
    http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1025861522935
    http://www.tmcsea.org/uploads/1/3/9/8/13988756/the_effects_of_exercise_intensity_on_the_stereotypic_behavior_of_ind_with_autism.pdf

  • @Cassox


    CBC w/ DIFF and PLT WBC 6.2 THOUS/MCL 3 8—10 8 RBC 4.33 MILL/MCL 4.20—5.80 HEMOGLOBIN 14.4 G/DL 13 2—17 1 HEMATOCRIT 43.2 % 38.5—50.0 MCV 95.3 FL 80.0—lO0.0 MCH 31.8 PG 27 O—33.0 MCHC 33.4 G/DL 32.0—36.0 RDW 13.3 % 11.0«15.0 PLATELET COUNT 255 THOUS/MCL 140—400 NEUTROPHILS,ABSOLUTE 3860 CELLS/MCL 1500—7800 LYMPHOCYTES,ABSOLUTE 1970 CELLS/MCL 850—3900 MONOCYTES,ABSOLUTE 270 CELLS/MCL 200-950 EOSINOPHILS,ABSOLUTE 110 CELLS/MCL 15—500 BASOPHILS,ABSOLUTE 10 CELLS/MCL 0-200 IOTA; XEUTTOPH:LS,% 62 % NOT ESTABLISHED TOTAL LYMBHOCYTES,% 32 % NOT ESTABLISHED MONOCYTES,% 4 % NOT ESTABLISHED EOSINOPHILS,% 2 % NOT ESTABLISHED BASOPHILS,% 0 % NOT ESTABLISHED CREATININE w/EGER CREATININE 1.03 MG/DL 0.60—1.35 EGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 102 ML/MIN/1.73M2 > OR = 60 EGFR AFRICAN AMERICAN 118 ML/MIN/1.73M2 > OR = 60 TSH 0.78 mIU/L 0.40-4.50 T4,EREE 1.3 NG/DL 0.8—1.8 VITAMIN B:2,SERUM 1742 H PG/ML 200-1100

    I can't find my BMP.
  • @Oflameo
    I say I don't have autism, but I can relate to some of the problems autistic people have. One of the most useful things I do when I don't feel like I am being under stood by someone, is I use as few words as possible. So like "ware is the bathroom," I would say "umm Bathroom?" The trick to making use of there feedback is to analyze how complex of words they use and how much detail they go into, let's just say there response is "over there," and they point somewhere. That means they are not the sharpest knife in the drawer and you need to use the lest technical words you can, and when possible draw comparisons to a object or a simple experience. Like a capacitor to a battery, or a spring to a rubber band. My rule of thumb is the more details the more technical you can be. Another thing I would recommend would be while your learning the first trick is to tell them to stop you if you have any questions. If ironically enough is unclear let me know I will see about making a video when I have a chance. By the way I have no qualifications other than my experience and what has worked for me. Let me know if you have questions.

    Sincerely,
    John Doe
  • I figured out something that works.

    I take 10mg of Noopept and 600mg of Alpha GPC 50% twice a day. I got both from, a great company, Powder City. It dampened my empathy so I can read people without being hit by empathy at the result of feeling how unprepared or ignorant other people feel.

    Then I switch in and out between impressions of Donald Trump, Stefan Molyneux, Joe Rogan, and Alex Jones. I also talk slower.
  • At risk of sounding ignorant what's the hardest part of being having autism? And I mean is it one part of it over the others? I don't know much except for what I have seen from a kid that went to college with me.
  • That is an easy one @Meanderpaul
    . The hardest part of having autism is that people keep Disrespecting My Time.
  • @Oflameo
    That's everyone comrade....
  • edited April 2016
    @JohnDoe, hey buddy, you don't know the half of it. If you did you would understand why I am entertaining the thought of acquiring antisocial personality disorder.
  • I have a math teacher who does nothing but wine and bitch about me and a few others, I "argue" with her cause I try and explain what I don't understand. I had another one that untaught me chemistry, she couldn't even teach the same thing twice.... Then if you really really want to see people wast your time start a band.... Everyone becomes the next Adele of Eddie van Halen etc etc, then when you say no they go completely insane on you and wine and wine and bitch. My point is dumb people waste the time of people trying to do something in life. Then the other side of that is you are doing something worth leaching off of. Be annoyed and proud, of the wolf sheep and shepherd your a wolf. Hope things get better....
  • This may be a completely evil thing to say, but I would like the chance to get the dumb people do something useful for a change. Even if it as small as getting them to troll me so I can pretend I am so much better than all of them and at least get my confidence up.
  • No I get what you are saying, it's fair to give people a chance. Then if they try to screw you over than yea making them play into your hand is fair gain....
  • By "Get over my Autism" are you referring to suppressing symptoms, or attempting to eliminate the disease itself? I have some limited experience dealing with severe autism as a clinician working with clients, but am not sure where you (you seem to be functioning well), might hope to go with utilizing nootropics or other augmentations to accomplish this. Have you had any luck yet?
  • @navigatorj I mean get rid of the symptoms. To my knowledge is that the only way to get rid of autism is build another brain.

    In fact I would prefer to get a co-morbidity of sociopathy because it will mitigate all of the downsides I was currently having. I am having lots of luck actually. The Alpha GPC 50% and Noopept is still working. I managed to stumble upon good material such as http://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/ to use as a guide.

  • "By "Get over my Autism" are you referring to suppressing symptoms, or attempting to eliminate the disease itself? I have some limited experience dealing with severe autism as a clinician working with clients, but am not sure where you (you seem to be functioning well), might hope to go with utilizing nootropics or other augmentations to accomplish this. Have you had any luck yet?"

    Autism is not a disease, seriously - it's literally not a disease.

    Comorbids are of course a whole other issue and if you want to treat your actual problems, saying "autism" is not enough.

    Also, if you have actual problems a doctor is more appropriate than this forum.
  • edited May 2016
    @garethnelsonuk I want to build a ASPD comorbid so I don't fall for any more time wasting bullshit dumped on me by clueless people or money wasting bullshit from sociopaths.

    I spent enough time having my productivity squandered by the government school system. I spent enough time in corporate psychic prison.
  • Ok, sounds like we may have some definitions differences here. I've split things up re. autism itself, and the CHALLENGES of autism, to try to reduce that confusion.

    So in my lexicon, autism = the adaptively advantaged way a brain evolves very differently when under high stress during key developmental phases (conception to age 26). This involves the encouragement of high intelligence, systems thinking, introversion, highly-developed problem-solving skills... what else could a culture ask for, if stress has gone so high that kids are affected?

    And Autism CHALLENGES = the digestive, immune, toxicity, nerve compression/ damage, and stress-trauma that drag down health sufficiently that it's hard to tell what that person is like under all the illness.

    I can't change that my brain evolved in an autistic way.
    However, I can identify and address all the causes of brain inflammation and overall impaired function of physiology, emotional stability, and cognitive capacity, so that I optimize my gifts and minimize my challenges.

    Given that context, @Oflameo, I'm curious if you've ever done any assessments to evaluate which particular blend of health problems is at the root of your own brain inflammation?

  • I got to say sad that stereotypes around this disorder are getting in the way, the people you see here in forums like this with asd are the lucky ones with I guesstimate between 120 and 150 IQ, the ones below 120 just don't have the capacity to deal with the obstacles in a sufficiently adaptive way unless they are suffering from a mild form of asd and the ones above 150 just don't have the social intelligence to adapt in any meaningful way. Autism does not make you smarter everyone is born with the IQ and social intelligence they are born with. These days
    People still equate ASD with savantism ala rainman and in the 1930-1960 this was true there were two sets of autistic patients those that were profoundly lacking intelligence and those that had an extreme surplus today people with asd span the entire IQ spectrum why this is could bring fruit to many answers on what could really be done. I personally believe that there is not a dramatic increase in autism cases per Capita but that contrary to today 1930's -1950's stay at home mother's had their own natural version of behavioral therapy that Lovaas in the end of the 60's - beginning of the 70's touted. Just look at some of the ASD behaviors in young patients and you see that a mother in the mid 20th century would have seen them as signs of disrespect or of a willfulness and would have done her darnest to prevent those behaviors. Our societal changes are to blame for the bulk of the increase in ASD IMHO.
    This makes me sad when I know that there are so many young adults out there today I believe could have lived perfectly normal adult lives instead of suffering the way many do today, in childhood the brain is sufficiently plastique to adapt if the right inputs are given, but because it's not politically correct, or child perversion services interfere it does not happen that often today.
    My ex has a son who was diagnosed with Asperger's today at 30 he lives a fairly normal life I credit him, but I credit her with stopping the worst of his impulses dead in their tracks while he was young, I also believe that without the threats of the aforementioned CPS his road would have had been less difficult because his mother would have been able to stop far more of his autistic impulses.
    My .02 for what it's worth, and to the OP my exes Son while having learned some patience, still hates his time being wasted as well. So you are so not alone there. And If supplements help you the more power to you.
    terramir
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