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Induced Deja Vu and Falsified Recollection
I've been a member and browser here for approx. 3 years, but this is my first post, so please bear with me. If I sound inexperienced, it's because I am. There's only one way to become less inexperienced and that's to have experiences (Duh.) I have no implants, no degree, and very little knowledge when it comes to biology, but I have ambition and a desire to learn. I'm an idea man. </clicheUserIntroduction> Anyway, on to the good stuff. I've been thinking (Dangerous- I know.) and I decided to do some preliminary research on the concept of Deja Vu and what the root of the feeling might be. I had hypothesized on my own prior to any research that it might originate when something everyday suddenly appears extremely familiar without doing so to the point of conscious recognition. For example, when you have a vivid or lucid dream of a location that exists outside of the dream. When you wake up your recollection of the dream becomes far less clear, and you go about your everyday life. Later that day you come run an errand to the location from the dream, and things begin to feel very familiar. Your brain doesn't consciously recognize the location because (I'm still doing research into this) the neural pathways that were available in the late stages of sleep have decayed since waking up. It's as if your mind knows that you are somewhere that should be familiar, but it doesn't know why. Now, this may sound very basic for many of you, and that may be because it is, but my gut instinct of how Deja Vu works turned out to be fairly accurate with one additional aspect being that Deja Vu is most commonly related to location. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/deja-vu-found-originate-similar-scenes/ The researcher mentioned in the article actually, works about 45 minutes away from where I live, and I'm going to be contacting her to see if I can get access to some more research on the subject. Now for the theoretical (fun) stuff. I believe that if we're ever going to be able to get to the point of memory implantation or downloadable knowledge in the future, whether it be the near or distant future, we need to understand memory to a fuller extent. I believe that Induced Deja Vu could become a very plausible and promising base for such research. My main question is this: If we can somehow induce a biochemical state of Deja Vu and manually supply the necessary stimuli to revitalize the neural pathways to the origin memory, whether real or manufactured via the means of voluntary hypnosis, guided lucid dreaming or chemical stimululant, etc., manually transfer the knowledge or memory had by a third party? Can we Induce Deja Vu, and simultaneously stimulate the memory of a location, event, or even emotion via some manufactured visual stimulus? I could just be crazy and have watched Total Recall too many times, but I figured it might be worth asking. Thanks in advance grinder community!
Anne Cleary's staff page for Colorado State University: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~acleary/AnneCleary.htm
Sincerely,
Infinight
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My hypothesis about deja vu is that it occurs when a certain number of senses recognize a situation but some vital ones are lacking. You get that feeling of "familiar but lacking."
Let's say you're riding an old subway car. The steady tempo of the wheels on the track is hypnotizing you and the lights and shadows are at a different, but equally steady, tempo. You are standing with your weight on your right foot and looking at your phone. A woman close to you has lilac perfume. Then, some guy crinkles a candy wrapper and BAM, deja vu hits.
What you don't remember is that four months ago you were in nearly the same situation but at that moment you also received bad news in a text message. Your brain locked that situation into memory but not perfectly and you forgot about the bad news arriving as a text but your brain subconsciously reacts because last time you experienced these conditions you were hit with bad news.
From an evolution standpoint it makes sense to feel anxiety when familiar triggers are present if something bad happened last time. If you get attacked by a predator while hunting but your brain registered that the forest got suddenly quiet you could get "eery premonition" when you encounter a quiet forest next time.
This feeling of deja vu would be avoided most of the time because we have a lot of senses and it's a crapshoot as to how often enough of them line up. So when the cards are dealt "just so" we get that eeriness and call it deja vu.
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