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Some questions regarding magnet implants

shrike

August 2012

edited February 2015

in Magnets

I'm really interested in magnet implants and got lots of questions witch you are hopefully able to answer.

1. Side effects
Do the magnets have any (possibly harmful) effects on credit cards, electronic devices like hard drives, smartphones (especially touchscreens, flash storage and ram)? Or are they too weak to damage or interfere with the outside world in a negative way?

2. Shape
I thought about using fully round magnets to reduce the possibility or harmfulness of flipping or moving of the magnets inside the flesh. What would be the down sides of using round magnets? What’s the idea in using flat magnets anyway?

3. Magnet in/on bone
Is it possible to embed a magnet somewhere in the bone of the finger? This would reduce the risk of magnet movement and could possibly increase the sensibility. Although the procedure gets more complicated... would that be possible?

4. Demagnetisation
Are there any long term experiences with magnets? I'm especially interested in the demagnetisation process. How much power does a neodym magnet lose over, 3 or 5 years?

5. MRI
Just out of curiosity, what really happens if you do an mri with a magnet in your finger? Does it start to glow and burn its way out or will it just get ripped out of the flesh?

6. Legal situation
What’s the legal situation on magnet implants?
Is it allowed for "normal" piercers/tattoo artist to perform a magnetic implant?
This brings me to my last question, are there any specialists witch perform this operation?
Preferably some were near Switzerland?

Please excuse my bad English and thanks for any replies in advance!

Tagged: magnets, implants

Comments

1. 

   Ben
   August 2012
   I think most to all of those questions have been answered before. Maybe it's time for a sticky about the magnets alone`?

   
   

   1) not that I've noticed. I have an android smartphone and flash/usb drives and not noticed any interaction at all

   as for credit cards: haven't tried those myself but for all I know there is no danger since the magnets are rather weak, especially with all the distance through the skin

   
   

   2) I guess a flat surface has a better lever, so you can better feel the movement. Also an entirely round shape would take up way more space, disks fit better inside a finger.

   
   

   3) We had some discussions about attaching stuff to the bone and the bottom line is: don't. It hurts a big deal and the bones aren't exactly dead material. Also the nerves in your finger you want to trigger are near the surface.

   
   

   4) I have no idea, but what I remember it should not demagnetize during your lifespan.

   
   

   5) It could become stronger, demagnetize completely or be ripped out. Or nothing happens. For what I read here it shouldn't be much of a problem since it can be shielded.

   
   

   6) There are piercers doing it. There is one in Mannheim, and others but I'm not up to date about that. Make sure to have a look over here: http://collaborate.biohack.me/
2. 

   shrike
   August 2012

   edited August 2012

   A sticky would be nice (just found the FAQ..).

   1. I work in IT and often have direct contact with expensive hardware... I'm concerned about that.. but I have to try that out a bit with a not implanted magnet

   2. You are right about the usage of more space. But you could use a smaller diameter with a neodym ball and probably still get the same mass?..

   3. You are probably right I suppose it isn’t really a good idea attaching it to the bone.

   4. This guy said something about his implant losing power... but I don't know if he used a neodym magnet or something else..

   5. Nice, someone should try that out ;)

   6. Will take a look.

   Thank you very much for your input

3. 

   Jack
   August 2012
   I would be extremely in favor of some information being migrated to a new magnets FAQ on the wiki. I've added an announcement pointing people to the magnets category in this forum as well.

   
   

   Since most of these questions have been answered pretty thoroughly in other places, I'm going to go ahead and close this thread in the interests of reducing duplication.