Implanting Magnets Via Syringe
I stumbled across this thread: http://forum.biohack.me/discussion/322/magnetic-implant-via-injection-method/p1 and was looking for some follow-up info. It seems to me that implanting using a needle would be much simpler and possibly less traumatic than the classic method. Is there any reason that this is not a more popular method?
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I'm totally interested
http://store.painfulpleasures.com/only-1-needle-20g-18g-16g-14g-12g-10g-8g-6g-single-sterilized-body-piercing-needle.html
I love the idea of quicker healer and completely agree with you that, even though I am terrified of needles, needles would be far easier than scalpel especially for novices. One question, what sites are you thinking about with method? As I don't think you could get it deep enough in the usual finger site (either that or I've just got really tiny fingers) and what do you think to the subcutaneous healing? Do you think this would cause more underlying damage than pocketing?
@kjwx: would love to here how long it took to fully heal and where it's located. If it's not too personal.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1582152
@ightden, that was precisely the concern I mentioned
Good news: using the instrument pictured above I implanted my first magnet into my ring finger.
Bad news: I didn't actually get to inject it...
It's late so I will do something that resembles more of an official write up tomorrow.
A few months back I had actually purchased normal neodymium magnents for another project, and they happened to be extremely close to the dimensions of the m31. I used these to experiment with the 3d printed injector that you can see in the post above. While I was testing I was happy to see that the magnet fit nicely within the needle, as it had an acceptable amount of space surrounding it. I used a 6g needle that had an inner diameter of 3.7mm. It wasn't optimal, but it was the closest I could get. Regardless, while I was testing it, the results seemed promising. The plunger would push the magnet out to the very tip of the needle.
However, an issue arose when I was beginning the procedure.
As someone who previously tried (and failed) with the scalpel method, using the needle seemed like a walk in the park!
I continued to work the needle slowly into the skin until I felt the ever apparent give of the needle (finally) breaking through the dermis. At this point I knew that I shouldn't really go much deeper at the risk of damaging the tissue and nerves underneath. I then lessened my angle of attack, and extended the pocket a tad more for good measure. With that, I removed the needle and popped in the magnet. I was then able to push the magnet deep into the pocket with the 3d printed plunger from the injector (so I guess it wasn't useless after all!).
Sincerely,
John Doe
About 3 days into the healing process, this is how things are healing up!
The very tip of the skin flap finally dried up and died, so I clipped it off. You can see a touch of red scab / new skin, as well as the dead skin surrounding wound. I am a tad disappointed that so much of the skin died, but I didnt believe it would survive. As for pain, it is almost non existant. It is still a bit tender to the touch but not painful. There is no fluid build up and little, to no noticeable swelling at this point.
@JohnDoe, the site surrounding the wound doesn't seem to be all that traumatized in the real world. I think the colorization might just be a result of the image. And yes, the plunger was the problem. I just design my own injector from the ground up next time. I'm very eager to try again once magnets become more readily available!!
For the most part I have been keeping a bandaid on it for some extra mechanical protection, and have been apply antibact regularly (even though it may not even be necessary now).
Also, I will be out of town this week so I will only be on mobile, which means no embedded pictures :(
https://goo.gl/xKqpi8
https://ibin.co/2t9Q4R83ilo6.jpg
I have to admit, I have not really treated this implant with love! Over the last few days it has definetly been through its far share of bumps and knocks. A few of them have been quite painful, and left a lingering sensation for 5-10 minutes afterward. To be honest it was actually quite worrying!
Regardless, it looks like everything is healing very well! There is no pain when probing the magnet and the incision is completely sealed. As you can (hopefully) see on the picture, the outline of the wound is still present, but has new pink flesh growing in around it. The swelling has also subsided considerabley, almost to the point of nonexsistance. Discoloration is also at a minimum with no apparent trains trauma or bruising.
The only thing that is slightly concerning is that when removing the liquid bandage, the top layer of the underlying skin was also able to come off in relatively large pieces. I simply peeled it away. I'm not too worried however, I struggle year round with my fingers peeling constantly. I attribute this to my strange skin and messed up fingers :D
https://ibin.co/2tiSd55FLgGN.jpg
Since the last update it appears that the site of the implant has swelled. The tissue itself does not appear to be inflammed, but filled with fluid. The skin appears to be rather thin/fragile as you can see from the creases in the picture. This is not to say that I am worried about the skin rupturing, it just looks rather unpleasant. The skin is almost completely smooth and lacks any ridges that are akin to a normal fingner print.
On the bright side, the original incision site has healed almost completely scarlessly! I'm very happy with how it healed! I do attribute this to using the needle rather than a scalpel.
This swelling started a few days after my last update and i will wait a few more days to see how things develope. I have also purchased some lancets if things should come to that... For now i am keeping pressure on it with a tight bandage on hope that will slowly force the fluid out.
@JohnDoe:
The size of the needle was pretty scary. The thing was around 4.2mm in diameter and I had to stick it into my finger. It wasnt the length of it or anything, it was just a bit menacing. Like i said before, of i could have changed anything about the needle it would have been the angle of the actual sharpened part(?). That way the amount of filleted skin would have drasticly reduced.
(sorry for unclear explanation, grammar and spelling mistakes. I'm awful at typing on a phone)